I've never seen another saddle from this maker before, which is ashame because you will not find a saddle that's made any better than this one. If you do ALOT of riding, break alot of colts, or are just plain rough on your tack and need a saddle that will hold up, this is definately it. It's not styled like your typical reiner, but i ride reining horses and it functions great. Great saddle also for trail/everyday riding, and training. I had the stirrup leathers replaced about a year ago. It may look a little rough, but all the wear is purely cosmetic, none of the parts that matter are worn, This is a great saddle to have around. 16" seat.